Doron: In England I don't think we have much of a problem with brain drain, but I think we have, like an internal problemmaybe, like all of the best jobs, or at least the best paying jobs, seem to be in London. So like, a lot of people have to move to London if they want to do the job they're interested in, and it just makes London really crowded and expensive because everybody has to live there, it seems.Pernais: Sounds like Kingston.
Doron: Really?
Pernais: Yes.
Doron: Everybody moves to Kingston?
Pernais: Everybody's moving from rural areas to Kingston.
Doron: What's the population of Kingston now, do you know?
Pernais: I think it's about a half a million.
Doron: Half a million. And was it much smaller before?
Pernais: I think it was because a lot of people lived out in the countryside, because farming was very profitable, maybe, somedecades ago. But now that, you know, technology is changing everything, people want, like, office jobs and they want to earn more, so lots of people actually move into the city areas now.
Doron: Yeah, I think technology in the near future might actually help to stop that because you can pretty much do most jobs online from anywhere. It's like, personally, I wouldn't want to live in London. I'd rather live somewhere a little more rural, more peaceful, cheaper, and be able to do my job online. So maybe that's something that'll change in the near future.
Pernais: Hopefully.
Doron: Are you from Kingston?
Pernais: I am.
Doron: Are you actually from the middle of Kingston? I remember you have a town with a really cool name, right?
Pernais: I'm not from the middle of Kingston. I'm from... just outside city center.
Doron: How far outside city center?
Pernais: 8 miles from Kingston.
Doron: And what's the name of your hometown.
Pernais: My hometown is called Bull Bay.
Doron: Bull Bay?
Pernais: Yes.
Doron: I thought it was called "8 miles from Kingston"
Pernais: Sometimes they call it that.
Doron: Were you kidding me when you said that?
Pernais: No, the bigger part of it is called Bull Bay and then that'ssubdivided into 8 miles, 9 miles, 7 miles.
Doron: So place names outside of Kingston are actually named after how far they are from Kingston.
Pernais: Yes.
Doron: That's one of the coolest things I've ever heard. I live 8 miles from Kingston. Where do you live? I live in 12 miles from London. That's a great name.
Pernais: Or sometimes it's shortened to 8 miles.
Doron: Wow. Like in Detroit. Maybe that's what it means, in the movie.